Freedom in Christ with Fernando
Welcome to the Holy Spirit Untethered. My name is Amber Beals, and it is my job and my mission to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through me, to help demystify who he is, what his role is, and to deeply encourage you to seek a relationship with him. Alright. Let's get started. Hey, guys.
Amber Beels:Welcome back to the holy spirit untethered podcast. My name is Amber. And today, I am so excited because I have a special guest. His name is Fernando. Fernando, you wanna say hi?
Fernando Resendiz:Hi, everyone.
Amber Beels:Fernando is an amazing, amazing man of God. I have known you how long now?
Fernando Resendiz:Probably over five Yeah.
Amber Beels:Like, since Hickory. Right? Since we were at the Hickory location?
Fernando Resendiz:Because you were at Hart Church before me. So
Amber Beels:Yes. Yes. I'm an old timer.
Fernando Resendiz:This is gonna be our sixth year at Heart Church.
Amber Beels:So Yeah. Sixth year.
Fernando Resendiz:We've known each other for since then.
Amber Beels:Yeah. And you just recently, what, the last two years have been a part of the council as well. So you're on the council
Fernando Resendiz:Yep.
Amber Beels:Doing that. We do that together. Your kids are in Gen H. I've been getting to know Gemena. Gemena is amazing and seeing her grow up has been awesome.
Amber Beels:I know Nando a little bit. He doesn't come to Gen H as often as Gemena, but they both are amazing kids.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. He tries to be a big boy, so
Amber Beels:Yeah. I know he works at Taco Bell and I'm gonna go visit him one of these days and be like, give me free food, please.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. You'll see him there.
Amber Beels:Awesome. Awesome. Well, today, I'm really excited to have Fernando on because you recently gave your testimony at Church in the Park, which if you guys don't know, at Heart Church, we do Church in the Park every once in a while because we get displaced from this California Center for the Arts, which is where we normally hold church. And sometimes they have like a big convention or whatever that's going on inside the convention and we get kicked out. So we get to go to the park.
Amber Beels:And when we do that, we do testimonies. And a few weeks ago, I had mentioned that I was gonna give my testimony and I did a few weeks ago. And now, Fernando got to go this last Sunday and it was really, really powerful to hear your testimony
Fernando Resendiz:Thank you.
Amber Beels:Talking about the Holy Spirit. Actually, both of you, the two people that went up, you and Charles, he both talked about the Holy Spirit, very Holy Spirit focused in this last, you know, Sunday. So it was it was really special to hear. And so I was like, okay. Well, I asked you to be on the podcast before I heard your testimony, but it just so happens you talked about that.
Amber Beels:So Yeah. It was really cool. What how do you feel about Sunday? How do you think it went?
Fernando Resendiz:I think it went pretty good. You know, like I mentioned there in my my testimony, I like to give it a twist where god gives me a message for the people Mhmm. Where where I'm not just sharing my story.
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:I could tell a bunch of stories. I mean, growing up, every time we get together with my family, that's what we talk about. Right. Like, it reminiscents where how we did when we were kids, all the crazy things that we did, and
Amber Beels:Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:And it it could go for hours. But I was praying, you know, that God show me something that at the end, you know, how I can bring this in and relate to the people. And I was praying about it, and nothing came on. You know, I was like blank the whole time. I was like, God, you know, I don't wanna make it up.
Fernando Resendiz:I don't wanna come in, hey. I have nothing, and I'm just gonna write stuff up. And I did. You know, believe me. I I I made notes and and But then I went, I highlighted, boom, deleted.
Fernando Resendiz:And I was praying about it until the night before. I was in bed, and then, like I mentioned, I I I had this dream. It was a lapse, like like a scene, you know, from a movie that Mhmm. He comes in, it ends, I open up my eyes, and I'm like, okay. This is it.
Amber Beels:Hot off the press Yeah. The night before.
Fernando Resendiz:So I was like, great. Now how I can you have to kinda you know, how I put it together in a way where, like, I how how you start, how I transition, all the churns and the right churns so you get in there. So it was a little messy because, you know, when I get to to share, I I normally have, like, three, four weeks before, and, like, I'm working, I'm rehearsing and prepping. It's like, okay. I have my notes.
Fernando Resendiz:I have my voice. This is the sequence I'm gonna follow. Yeah. And it's gonna be like that. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Luckily, it was only, like, twenty minutes, so it would have been worse if it was for a whole hour. Yeah. But I think I think it came out. Right?
Amber Beels:I Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:I at the end of the day No. I message with matters. So
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. It was good.
Amber Beels:It was good. It was really good. And one of the things that you talked about that was kind of the theme of your message was freedom. Freedom in Christ. Freedom in the Holy Spirit.
Amber Beels:Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And so that was you kinda had a lot of themes, but that was on the one that kinda like stood out to me is that freedom that you have in Christ. And so today, I figured that would be our topic. It's talking about that and then also how the Holy Spirit just works in your life.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm.
Amber Beels:Just in general, but, like, through that freedom lens, I guess, could say.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:So I am excited about our conversation. Yeah. Should be good. So before we get started, let's go ahead and pray. So if you guys are able to and it's safe to do so, go ahead and close your eyes and pray with us.
Amber Beels:Alright. Dear heavenly father, I just thank you so much for this opportunity. I thank you for Fernando's YES for coming on to this podcast and just sharing his experience with your Holy Spirit, how he knows you, how he works with you, how you partner with him, and how he does life with you, Lord. I just think it's so amazing. And Lord, I just pray that our words would fall away and Holy Spirit, your words would come through.
Amber Beels:I pray a blessing over every single person that's listening to this podcast, whether it's right when it comes out or years down the line, Lord. I just pray a blessing. I pray that you prepare our hearts and just allow us to be able to edify and equip your saints, Lord, with this conversation. We pray these things in Jesus' name. Amen.
Amber Beels:Amen. Awesome. Amen. Alright. So Fernando.
Fernando Resendiz:Yes.
Amber Beels:The spirit of truth. The spirit of freedom. Now I I kinda want you to start a little bit, maybe not as much as you did on Sunday, but give a little taste of your background, like, where you're from and, like, kind of the the background of what you grew up, and then we'll kinda go from there. Does that sound good? Yeah.
Amber Beels:Okay. Cool.
Fernando Resendiz:So like we said, you know, I was born in Mexico. It's a state called Queretaro. It's probably about thirty, forty five minutes up in this area East of Mexico City. So if wanna get that location, kinda like in your head.
Amber Beels:Okay.
Fernando Resendiz:So we grew up I mean, we have a family of nine siblings. We grew up pretty poor, you could say.
Amber Beels:It's a big family.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. I mean, living in the Sierra, you you you're way up there. Mhmm. There's no much services. You live off the land.
Fernando Resendiz:You work the land. Mhmm. Kinda like a farm style Yeah. Living. So it that was the only life that we knew, so we didn't expect anymore.
Fernando Resendiz:So you've survived pretty much survival. Mhmm. And in my early years, my family became to Christ, and we got to know him, experienced a relationship with him. My mom was the first one, so, I mean, all the kids would come in. So we started experiencing God from a really early age.
Amber Beels:And that was that was really important because, yeah, I remember on Sunday, you were saying it's very a predominantly Catholic area. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And so becoming not Catholic, but Christian or at least a a separate denomination, that that was really tough for you guys. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. It was really tough. And and I think that's how I got to experience God in a real way. Mhmm. Because a lot of kids, you know, when the family converts or the parents convert, they come in at an early age and they experience Christianity more as a way of living.
Fernando Resendiz:You know? It's part of more of a cultural thing Mhmm. Than an actual relationship with God. But for us, being the only Christian families, you know, it was a few families that we got together in a predominant Catholic community. Right.
Fernando Resendiz:We were tested. And we got to see, like, okay, you either believe it or not. And as kids, you know, even in school, you were bullied. You're persecuted. You've been questioned, and you've been challenged.
Fernando Resendiz:And and then it's like, okay. Is this real or not? And you get to you get to see god, how he works in the lives of people. You get to experience miracles. You get to experience deliver the being delivered from people that persecute you Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:And how lives are being transformed. And then you're like, okay. God is real. Yeah. And then it becomes part of you.
Fernando Resendiz:And I think that's when God really took a grab on my heart and be like, you get to have that relationship with me. You get to experience God. And and that's how I started as a little kid. You know, I was out there by myself, and and I would pray for things, like small things, like Sure. Show me where my sheep went because I I lost them.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Or or help me when I get how I get back home and not get beat up because I did something wrong or I messed it up, you know. Yeah. Those little things that you get to see because you know that there's a God, there's a higher power that's looking after you. Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:And and that's called god, and now you get to experience that. And and that was kinda like the beginning of, you know, experiencing god.
Amber Beels:Well, in developing that relationship with him too. Right? Because you were a little kid by yourself.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:Like, you said you were, what, like, seven, eight years old be shepherding these sheep in in the middle of nowhere Yeah. And just kinda, like, figuring it out. So you had a lot of time to spend with God. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:And, I mean, I I I didn't know much of the word, only small stories, a few songs, the songs that we sing at church every time we get together. It was, like, five songs. So you repeat them over and over. You would have worship nights of probably two hours and singing only about five songs the whole time.
Amber Beels:You knew them very well.
Fernando Resendiz:No instruments. Nothing. Just your hands clapping and singing singing your heart out and
Amber Beels:Was it out of, a house?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:Okay.
Fernando Resendiz:So it was, like, every every other day, you go to a different house.
Amber Beels:Oh, you would rotate. Okay.
Fernando Resendiz:We would rotate. There was, like, probably, like, five
Amber Beels:houses. Okay.
Fernando Resendiz:Some of them were, like, close, and most of them was, like, at the other side of the hill. So you have to go down, climb up Yeah. One hour, two hour walk. That was the journey. So you would go in the afternoon.
Fernando Resendiz:You come back home around probably ten at night, make back home, and then but the community, like, it was amazing. Yeah. Just the life that we get to enjoy together. You know, we meet, we we break bread, and
Amber Beels:How many families?
Fernando Resendiz:It was probably about four or five families.
Amber Beels:Okay. So yeah. Super intimate.
Fernando Resendiz:Every meeting probably was about ten, fifteen people. Yeah. 20 at the most.
Amber Beels:Was size of a life group now.
Fernando Resendiz:Right? Yeah. So it was a really cool experience just to see how the togetherness and how we get to do live together. It was something that, like, oh, this is the real deal.
Amber Beels:Yeah. You got to experience community very early on. Yeah. Like, it's meant to be. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:Then when you came here to The US, how how old were you?
Fernando Resendiz:I was 17.
Amber Beels:You're 17.
Fernando Resendiz:I think I barely turned 17.
Amber Beels:Okay. Yeah. And then you guys plugged into a church here?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So when we came here to Escondido, so being in Escondido my whole life Mhmm. Most of my life. Yeah. And my family, they were here.
Fernando Resendiz:They were Christians. My cousin's husband, he's the pastor of the church when we started attending. My brothers were part of the ministry. My oldest brother was, like, the assistant pastor. My other two brothers, they were, like, the worship leaders.
Amber Beels:So they were all in?
Fernando Resendiz:They were all in. Yeah. So they were already plugged in in the church. Pretty much, the church is run by two families, two, three families. So us were, like, the biggest families in there.
Amber Beels:Got
Fernando Resendiz:it. So as soon as I came here, I plugged in, and I I started hanging out with them in the worship team. So I started getting involved in music and and a lot of things, you know. So that was, like, the first church that we I got plugged in as we came here.
Amber Beels:And how did it differ from the church that you were used to back home?
Fernando Resendiz:Well, I think the knowledge of the word or the interpretation and the doctrine was pretty predominant in in how they see things in a way where, like, oh, okay. Christians believe in this and that. And there's these other Christians that they don't believe like us. So
Amber Beels:So that's where you learned, like, the different doctrines, the different denominations. Yeah. Okay.
Fernando Resendiz:Because we I mean, it was we already knew back there because, okay, when we were there, that was the the things that we were questioning. It's like, okay, Christians, they don't curse, they don't drink, They had to dress the certain way. They have to behave the certain way. And if you don't do that, then you're fake.
Amber Beels:Got
Fernando Resendiz:it. Because you are dressing up like us, like Catholics. You know, you're doing what we do, so what's the difference now? When you come here when I when we come here, it's like, okay. This denomination does this.
Fernando Resendiz:They believe in that. Like, talking about the trinity. It's like, we believe in the we don't believe in the father, son, and holy spirit. God is one. Jesus is only god.
Fernando Resendiz:The name of the god is Jesus. And then you start, like, creating those frictions between the different denominations and cultures and all the rules and norms. It's like, okay. You fall in sin, then you have to go up there and confess your sins and repent, and there's a whole
Amber Beels:Atone for what you've done.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Yeah. So that's when I started to see, like, okay. You know, I guess this is what it's all about. You know?
Amber Beels:And that's what that was what your the new church that your family was a part of. They believed in that Mhmm. In that way.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:Got
Fernando Resendiz:it. So that was the doctrine that I was influenced or I was born into.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:You could say that's how we started.
Amber Beels:And was that a big, like, transition for you? Like, a big difference for coming from the families back at home?
Fernando Resendiz:Not a big transition because that was kinda like the same foundation.
Amber Beels:Okay. So similar.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. It was pretty similar. Yeah. But you but we were the only ones.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:So there are, like, there was no
Amber Beels:There was no difference of opinions. That that was it. Right? Yeah. Got it.
Fernando Resendiz:So it was us and and Catholic. Yeah. So it was a big difference.
Amber Beels:Got it. I see.
Fernando Resendiz:And and then you come here and then you have the Mormons, you have the witnesses, you have You
Amber Beels:got lot of different ones.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. I'm like, oh, wow. Yeah.
Amber Beels:So how long were you a part of that church then?
Fernando Resendiz:I was probably until I got married. So it was probably 02/2004.
Amber Beels:Okay.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So from 02/1999, 02/2004.
Amber Beels:Got it.
Fernando Resendiz:There. Yeah. It's a long time.
Amber Beels:And I remember on Sunday, you were mentioning that Perla was was having a hard time your Perla, your wife was having a hard time fitting in. Are you what what were your what were your words on on that? Because she didn't believe in, you know, dressing a certain way or whatever.
Fernando Resendiz:She comes from a Pentecostal background. Yes. I mean, even in Pentecostal church, there's different Sure. Ways they view, interpret things. So she was, you could say, preliberal, like, what some people called.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. I mean, she would wear makeup. She was wearing jeans. And then and then so we met. She comes over.
Fernando Resendiz:I was like, oh, come over, you know, visit their church, you know, see how it is. Oh, by the way, the Yes.
Amber Beels:These are the rules.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. If you dress this way, you might get a few looks.
Amber Beels:Sure.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. I mean, and it certainly did. Now when she first came in, like, people was like, okay. He's staring at her, like, oh.
Amber Beels:I can only imagine. I I don't think I've ever been in a church like that. Yeah. I yeah. All the churches I've been in are, like, nondenominational, so, like, they're not, like, super strict.
Amber Beels:I mean, of the Baptist ones are a little bit more strict, but
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:In a different way. So yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. And it wasn't something that they say it to her face, but I'm just feel the looks.
Amber Beels:Sure.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Mean, women are more perceptible.
Amber Beels:Yes. Definitely. We can pick up on those things.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So it's like, I could walk by and I can barely notice it, but she was like, uh-uh. I'm not coming back here. You know? And I told her, well, what if you try?
Fernando Resendiz:You know? It's like, of wearing pants, why don't you just wear this skirt on Sundays, you know, or, like, tone it down on the makeup, you know. Maybe you can try to fit in and and because I I love my church. I I was serving there. I grew up in there.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm. I mean, I love the people. I mean, the impact that God had in my heart since the beginning, like, I mean, like, any everything I do, I I believe it's for God and love God's people. So it was my community for me. It was a big part.
Fernando Resendiz:So I felt like leaving them or transitioning to different churches is gonna be and also the guilt part, you know, it's like they tell you, like
Amber Beels:Especially since it's all family. Yeah. A lot of it was family.
Fernando Resendiz:Also that too. So it was pretty harsh, but, I mean, my wife is not gonna feel welcome and this is gonna happen to us. So that was kinda like the breaking part. But also, the biggest part is that probably a year later that we were in there, the church divided. Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:So my brother went with another family, started their own church. So we were like, okay, who do we follow? You know, my brother, it's going on his own, and then we have family here and family on both sides.
Amber Beels:Both sides. Oh, that's rough. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:So we were like, you know what? We're not gonna pick sides. We're just gonna go our own way.
Amber Beels:Twice.
Fernando Resendiz:So it was pretty rough because now both sides, they look at us as like, you
Amber Beels:guys are
Fernando Resendiz:traitors. Yeah. You're betraying your blood and all that.
Amber Beels:You can't win in that situation. No. There's no winning.
Fernando Resendiz:No. So we spent probably about two years without going to church.
Amber Beels:Church shopping or just not going to church at all?
Fernando Resendiz:Just not going to church at all. Mhmm. Yeah. It was pretty kinda like neutral.
Amber Beels:Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:I don't know. It was just like a pretty blank time until something drastic happened. It was like, okay. We need to go back to treatment.
Amber Beels:God does that. Sometimes he hits you with a two by four, and he's like, what are you doing? Yeah. You gotta come back, like, know, type thing.
Fernando Resendiz:So we got pregnant with Nando, and then we go one day to do his normal checkup, you know, like, and the doctor's like, okay. Looking on the ultrasound machine. It's like, okay. Let's go back again. And then he was looking at the screen.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm. Like, I wanna see this bubble here. And then she starts looking back, and I was like, I wanna see what it is. It looks like his stomach is kinda big. Oh.
Fernando Resendiz:So I was like, what are you what are you talking about? What is it? It's hard to tell, But tell me, you know, what Yeah. What is it?
Amber Beels:What do you think it is?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. I can't tell you because I don't wanna tell you something that, you know
Amber Beels:It's not true. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Is not true. So I don't wanna scare you. Well, you're I'm already scared, so give me your best shot, you know. No. No.
Fernando Resendiz:No. You know what? We're gonna schedule to do another, you know, higher scanner and Yeah. And, you know, better results of specialist. Schedule it.
Fernando Resendiz:So you got two weeks of waiting to get this.
Amber Beels:Oh, that's nerve racking.
Fernando Resendiz:Oh, man. That was like, hey, God. Are you trying to do something here?
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:So, yeah, we went, we prayed about it. We prayed and, man, that was sort of turning back.
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Like, maybe they're and then how you come to God and after you isolate yourself and forget about God. I mean, it's not like we forgot, but you're not like
Amber Beels:You're not in it.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Yeah. And then you're like, okay, now you come, you know, with the tail between your legs. Yes.
Amber Beels:The walk of shame back. Yeah. But you know what's beautiful is that the Lord doesn't view it as a walk of shame. Right? No.
Amber Beels:He's just calling you. Yeah. And he just wants you back. Yeah. And so he has no condemnation.
Amber Beels:He's just happy that you're back. Yeah. You know? Which is not true for a lot of humans, but at least our our god is like that. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Yeah. So we went to I mean, I pray about it and and all of a sudden, you know, god started giving us peace. And that's why we call him Isaac. His second name is Isaac because when I was praying, was telling God, God, if if if you wanna take him, you know, it's yours.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm. You give it to me, you can take him back. The same way Abraham, you know, that he was the promise. I said, what's the promise, but you asked for him. Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:And he didn't hesitate to give it back to you because he believed that if if you take him, you know, he just can reborn again and give him a son again. So that was sort of my connection back to God. It's like, God, I depend on you. You know, if you take him or if he comes something wrong with him, I'm ready to love him because that's what you're giving me.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:Or if you take him away, that's you taking him away. Mhmm. So that's that's the story of his second name, Isaac.
Amber Beels:Is that his middle name? Yeah. Okay. Got it. Yeah.
Amber Beels:Yeah. That's pretty middle.
Fernando Resendiz:Isaac. Yeah. Oh, wow. And then, yeah, we go to the appointment, and the doctor starts scanning. Like, I don't see anything.
Amber Beels:Wow.
Fernando Resendiz:Well, you better look back because
Amber Beels:Double check, doctor.
Fernando Resendiz:And there was nothing. Wow. There was nothing.
Amber Beels:Praise god.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So we were lucky. We gotta look for a church.
Amber Beels:We gotta plug back in. Is this is our sign.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So we went back to Calvary Chapel. Mhmm.
Amber Beels:Is that the one that turned into Cross Connections?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:Okay. Got it.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So we live on the apartments on the other side of the freeway.
Amber Beels:Oh, okay. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:And then we drop by. There's a sign outside. It's like, oh, there's a Spanish church here.
Amber Beels:Uh-huh.
Fernando Resendiz:So I was like, okay. Let's try it out. So we plugged in right away. We were in that church for twelve years.
Amber Beels:Oh, wow. So a minute. You were there for a while.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Yeah. So we as soon as we got in, we plugged in. Yeah. I joined the worship team and then started doing it all.
Amber Beels:Now, know Calvary Chapel has a little bit of a different doctrine than where you're where you came from. Yeah. How was that for you going into that?
Fernando Resendiz:It was it was a learning experience. Definitely, it was completely different. It was a lot of bible based teaching. Yeah. So it was it was really good for me just to hear the preaching and going through the bible.
Fernando Resendiz:And I would listen to K Way, which is the the radio station that they have different pastors. So I got to learn a lot. Yeah. And I actually got to experience the word, you know, as it is. You know?
Fernando Resendiz:And it was really good. It was a lot of learning.
Amber Beels:Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. The only I mean, I have nothing bad to say about Calvary Chapel.
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:I wish our community would've been more connected.
Amber Beels:That was the missing piece. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. That was that was totally the missing piece. Mhmm. Yeah. But for some reason, some personal problems of our pastor, the church closed its doors.
Fernando Resendiz:So
Amber Beels:Oh, it completely closed?
Fernando Resendiz:It completely closed.
Amber Beels:Is that why it became Cross Connections?
Fernando Resendiz:No. Actually, we I mean, we were part of Calgary Chapel, but we weren't affiliated with the American church or the English church. Oh. So we were kinda like on our own.
Amber Beels:So they viewed it as a separate, like, entity, a different Oh, okay.
Fernando Resendiz:Got it. We had nothing to do with them in the in the ways of ministry or how the church is run.
Amber Beels:Uh-huh.
Fernando Resendiz:I mean, the pastor was covered by the insurance, and he helped in the ministry. But as far as them mixing together with the Hispanics, we were on our own thing, doing our own thing. So Oh, interesting. When he closed the doors, it was like, okay. Nobody told him, like, maybe we should take over or maybe we bring another pastor or maybe pick someone from the group there and Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Have him take on. So, I mean, I was expecting that, but he was like, okay. This is our last day. It was funny because you go in, last day. Okay.
Fernando Resendiz:I guess this is it. That's so sad. Yeah. So I go up there. I do worship.
Fernando Resendiz:I get to share. You know? It's like, oh, man. But when I like, the weeks before, because the pastor wasn't preaching, so we would rotate with a few of the leaders to share the word. And that was the message from God.
Fernando Resendiz:You know? It's like, I'm taking you to a better place. Mhmm. And it's funny because I was telling people God is taking us to a better place. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Okay. What's a better place when the church is closing? I don't see what Okay, Fernando. What good can come out of that, you know.
Amber Beels:Yeah. Great.
Fernando Resendiz:But I think the message was for me because definitely God brought me to a better place. Mhmm. And everything was just, like, lining up to where God wanted to take me. So it's been a journey where, like like I was speaking on on Sunday, you know, it's a journey to freedom because you start in the background where, like, okay. Your eyes are opening, and you start learning, and you start connecting, and you're growing in your relationship with God and learning to the point where, like, God is just putting all the pieces together Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:For you to grow. It doesn't mean you're incomplete because when God grabs a hold of your heart and he's he's all you need
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Even though you're not you don't have all the knowledge or do the things the right way, the essence of him that is in you, that's all you need.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:And all the things come, you know, as a compliment when we talk about community, when we talk about breaking up from religion and all of the rules, norms, you know, even though that's in your head, but God is still there and you know that that's all you need. But now you're like, I'm free. You know, you can enjoy that freedom because those things are not there anymore. Mhmm. And I think coming to hardships is just like another process where, like, I have to learn things, and now I'm learning new things, and it just keeps going.
Amber Beels:Well, I think as believers too, we're lifelong learners. Right? We never stop learning
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:Because there's always something that the Holy Spirit is trying to reveal to us. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm.
Amber Beels:Some some truth that is for that time in our lives, and he's always revealing that to us. And if he's not, then you need to start seeking him more because he's always teaching us something. Yeah. He's the teacher. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:So yeah. Yeah. And I know coming to Heart Church for you guys was big for you because you found that community piece that was missing, right, at Calvary Chapel.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And I think that's really important. And the Holy Spirit wants us to be in community. Right? We're all one in Christ.
Fernando Resendiz:Yep.
Amber Beels:Paul says, we're neither male or female or, you know, slave or free man or Jew or Greek.
Fernando Resendiz:We're all
Amber Beels:one in Christ and we need to be a body and come together. Mhmm. And we can only do that if we actually come together. Right? Yeah.
Amber Beels:Good life together.
Fernando Resendiz:In order to happen, you have to be together.
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So
Amber Beels:For sure.
Fernando Resendiz:It was something that definitely missing. I mean, I experienced it since the beginning, and I always felt like that was missing the piece. You know, that was the piece that was missing because even in our other church, yeah, we would get together, but it wasn't like this. You know? We get together at birthdays and stuff like that, nothing like, okay.
Fernando Resendiz:Let's hang out or let's go out to lunch or give them a call and like, hey. I wanna check with you and see how are you doing. Or or you can you can have the liberty to approach somebody and be like, hey. You know what? I'm going through this.
Fernando Resendiz:You know? Have that openness and be like, I need to vulnerable. Yeah. Vulnerable. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:So this is where, like, it it totally open up, and and that's the the beauty of it that that I mean, it's not easy, like you said, because especially doing with people that different backgrounds. You know?
Amber Beels:People are messy. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. And also the culture barriers and, like I mean, the prejudice that you have in your head is like, I wanna talk to these people, you know, it's like, how they see me, you know, that
Amber Beels:They're not gonna relate or, you know, whatever. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:You Yeah.
Amber Beels:Get those ideas in your
Fernando Resendiz:feel like you have to talk to your own people in order to feel like, okay. They they they get
Amber Beels:me. Right.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So, I mean, we're talking to Filipinos, you know, all kinds of people, backgrounds. It's it's amazing just to get the blend and
Amber Beels:Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:Like, this is what united us. You know, this is what brings us together. Right. God, you know.
Amber Beels:Yeah. I think that's a type of freedom. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:It's a type of freedom to be able to speak your mind and be vulnerable with people even with different backgrounds because, again, we're all one in Christ. So it doesn't matter if they have a different culture, different you know, they were brought up differently. They still have the Holy Spirit in them, and they're gonna be empathetic to you and be able to allow the Holy Spirit to speak through them and give a word for you, you know, no matter what their background is because they they love you. Genuinely, they love you and they wanna connect with you and help you and and be there and do life with you. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Definitely. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And that that was the breaking point when we our first time when we come and meet Shane.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm. And he's like, okay. You know, I'm here. You know, I'm all in. Whatever you guys need, you know, just let me know.
Fernando Resendiz:I'm here for you. I I don't wanna change anything. I don't wanna do anything different. And that was kinda like, okay. This is it.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm. You know? We were I mean, I still was hesitant because maybe this guy just wants to, you know, sweeten our ears and and He just
Amber Beels:wants to use us in some way. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Or tell us what we wanna hear so we can just, like, join their party. But, no, he hasn't changed. Mhmm. And, I mean, knowing Shane and how we really connected, it was like, okay.
Fernando Resendiz:This is the church where where we belong. Yeah. And it was totally a different expectation, but that's how God works in us. Like, I wanna take you to a place where, like, can't even imagine and and it happened. So it's been great.
Amber Beels:Yeah. It's a beautiful thing to witness, us trying to, like, have a melting pot of a church. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:Doing having every kind of background and just doing church together. There is no Spanish service. There is, like, one service and Yeah. You know, we we do life together and we try not to seclude different people or different cultures. And Mhmm.
Amber Beels:I I think we've been doing a pretty good job of it. You know, we're we're doing our best, right, of of doing it. And it's it's been a journey for sure, and it's been a blessing too just to kinda see all the different people that the Lord brings, you know, into our church, which is awesome.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. It's possible. Definitely possible. And a lot of people say this, you know, it's like, no. It can't happen.
Fernando Resendiz:You know? Like, these Hispanics, they gotta be on their own and
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:And the every church you go to is like, they're here, we're here because there's always gonna be that conflict.
Amber Beels:Yeah. But Well, I mean, there's a like a logistical barrier, right,
Fernando Resendiz:of
Amber Beels:the language. Right? I mean, that that's where it starts. But if you really make an effort to try to break down those barriers and create a bridge instead Yeah. Then it can be a beautiful thing.
Fernando Resendiz:Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's been good.
Amber Beels:Yeah. That's awesome. Yep. So as far as, you know, I know you have some notes here in terms of, like, how the Holy Spirit, you know, has counseled you through dilemmas and and and different things. Is there anything in particular that you wanted to share that was on your heart in terms of, like, living in freedom with the holy spirit?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So when I was reading John, I mean, to be honest, I I didn't dig in into the holy spirit. And and it also has to do because of my background. You know? It's like, the church I go, we don't believe in the trinity.
Amber Beels:Uh-huh.
Fernando Resendiz:So I was like, the holy spirit is pretty much out of the picture. Yeah. And we're talking about
Amber Beels:That happens.
Fernando Resendiz:We're only about Jesus. And then I make the mistake of not joining your holy spirit classes.
Amber Beels:I know. I know, Fernando. This is this is your sign that you need to join the next one.
Fernando Resendiz:But I don't know why I I was invited here. You know? It's like, it's not only a subject that is not my specialties specialty, not that I'm in the theologian or anything. Mhmm. But it's definitely not of especially a subject that causes a lot of controversies in Christianity.
Amber Beels:Yeah. And now
Fernando Resendiz:I'm gonna ask you why do you choose to do a podcast on the holy spirit? Well Let's turn the tables. Yeah. Know. Right?
Amber Beels:Well, the reason why I did this podcast was because exactly what you said, where people don't give him the credit that he deserves or they don't know who he is. He's just like this force that they're like, okay. Yeah. I understand God the father, God the son, but the holy spirit, I don't know. Like, you know, type thing.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Yeah.
Amber Beels:And so when I went through the course that I lead now, it opened my eyes of like, oh my goodness, like, the Holy Spirit is literally here. Like, God is in heaven, Jesus is in heaven, right, on his right hand.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm.
Amber Beels:The Holy Spirit's here.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And we ignore him Yeah. For the most part. Right? Yeah. And he's the most sensitive member of the Trinity.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm.
Amber Beels:So if anyone's gonna be grieved, it's gonna be him that we don't talk to him or Yeah. That we don't address him or, you know, he is it's three in one. Right? He is God.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Yeah.
Amber Beels:So he deserves that attention of, you know, partnering with him because he's the one that experiences everything that you experience. He's inside you if you get baptized with the Holy Spirit. Like, he's the one that gives you power.
Fernando Resendiz:Like Yeah.
Amber Beels:He is so important in the Trinity. And the one of the reasons why you you I invited you on this podcast is because every time you speak, Fernando, I hear the Holy Spirit through you. And the Holy Spirit in me can discern that. Right? Because the Holy Spirit's the same.
Amber Beels:Right? He's all in us and he gives us all that gift of discernment. Yeah. And there's certain people that when you hear them speak, it's their words. It's them, you know.
Amber Beels:And sometimes there's nothing wrong with that. They're trying to, you know, educate, they're trying to teach. But when you allow the Holy Spirit to speak through you, it's so much more edifying. It's so much more powerful when you actually let the Holy Spirit speak because he's God. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Yeah.
Amber Beels:He is wisdom. He can
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:Teach a lot better than you can. Mhmm. And so whenever I hear you speak, I hear the Holy Spirit. And so whether you know it or not, you have the Holy Spirit in you and you are yielded enough to let him speak.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And not everyone knows how to do that or has practiced enough to allow him to speak through them. Not just not because they don't want to, it's just it takes practice Yeah. To yield. Right? Yeah.
Amber Beels:And to listen. And so when you had that dream the night before you gave your testimony, that was the Holy Spirit giving you that dream, that that vision. That was him giving that to you. Yeah. And the fact that you were open enough to receive it
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm.
Amber Beels:And then have enough faith to know that, like, He was gonna answer you even if it was in the eleventh hour Yeah. Even before you had to give the message
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:That He was gonna show up and then He was gonna give you a message.
Fernando Resendiz:Oh, He did.
Amber Beels:That's faith. Right? And partnering with the Holy Spirit and having being expected
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:That he's gonna show up and he's gonna do those things and he's gonna give you that message and he's gonna give you the words. Mhmm. That is incredible faith. And that is you partnering with the Holy Spirit whether whether you recognize it or not, you're partnering with him. Right?
Amber Beels:Yeah. And so I admire that in you. And so I I I wanted to bring you on to to talk about that freedom that you have now coming from a background where you didn't believe in the Trinity or you were taught that the Trinity wasn't a thing, was all about Jesus. And now going to a church where we do believe in the Trinity where the Holy Spirit is, you know, a powerful member of the Trinity. Mhmm.
Amber Beels:And that through him, we have freedom of not being under the law. Yeah. In Leviticus, it says that, you know, the Lord said, I'm going to replace your heart of stone with a heart of flesh and put my spirit within you so that you can obey my statutes. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:So that's the spirit inside you that has the law written in our hearts. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm.
Amber Beels:So we don't have to follow the letter of the law. We have the freedom of the spirit and not under the actual law, but it's coming from a place of I want to because I love the Lord because of what he's done for me because I feel his love for me. And I know that everything that he wants me to do is for my own good and not just because he's telling me to do so. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And so it's from that heart posture of obedience because of what the Lord has done. Yeah. And so that's why. Oh.
Fernando Resendiz:Now I know.
Amber Beels:Now you know.
Fernando Resendiz:No. No. It's amazing because I, you know, it's been the recent probably the last year where I I kinda, like, realized that that connection. And when I read, you know, John fourteen, fifteen, 16, And it happened that I was started watching season five of the children Mhmm. Last week.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. And I heard Jesus, you know, starts with the with Jesus at the upper room with his disciples and laying it down to him. I was like, guys, I'm gonna leave. You're gonna be alone. You're gonna be questioned.
Fernando Resendiz:You're gonna discern me, and it's gonna be ugly.
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:And but you're not gonna be alone. Mhmm. The spirit of truth is gonna come. The counselor or the comforter is gonna come. I'm gonna send it to him.
Fernando Resendiz:He's gonna speak. For me, he's gonna be with you, and he's gonna be in you. Mhmm. And how he laid out to them, like, I I could sense the sense of urgency and desperation in him that it's gonna get ugly before it gets pretty Yeah. Because you're gonna be in the world, and the world's gonna beat you up.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm. And and people are gonna question, and he's gonna remind you the things that you need to hear because you might forget when you go through all when you're down at the bottom, you're gonna forget what I told you, but he's gonna remind you. He's gonna lift you up. He's gonna bring you back up. Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:And and that's the beauty. That's when I say, wow. You know, how important it is to know that the holy spirit is it's there Mhmm. Even though you don't see it, even though you don't recognize it. And when I see the spirit of truth is is that, you know, it's like you get to understand him.
Fernando Resendiz:You get to search him. And I'm not talking about, like, theology, like, okay. What's the right interpretation? Or I'm reading the bible, and it's like, okay. What does it mean?
Fernando Resendiz:Do you understand the prophecies? Do I understand what's gonna happen? Or, like, it's how close you get to him that when when you pray or when you seek him, he starts speaking. Mhmm. And then you start listening.
Fernando Resendiz:And then you're like, okay, God. And then you go through this other situation, and it's like, okay, God. What do I do here? And I admire that about you because when you when you preach, you're like, okay. I talked to the holy spirit.
Fernando Resendiz:He was telling me, like, okay. Do this. And then again, I'm like, okay. And then I pray, and I tell I ask the holy spirit. What do I do?
Fernando Resendiz:And he tells me, okay. Do this. And that's how amazing it could be that you can talk to the holy spirit. It's like, he's next to me. You know?
Fernando Resendiz:It's like, what's my next move? Mhmm. And that is the freedom that you have that I'm going I'm heading in the right direction because he told me so. Mhmm. Or he showed me.
Fernando Resendiz:And, like, when I preach, like, I tell you, when I preach and when I'm preparing, it's like, k, God, what do you want me to say? And you go in there already with the certainty that, okay, the message you got the right message because it has already been spoken to you.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:Yes. You're shaking. Yes. You're nervous. Yep.
Fernando Resendiz:But you go with the expectation that, you know, this is the message that he wants me to transmit, and it's gonna be great at the end. And and that's the the freedom. That's the freedom in in in God and knowing that he's in you
Amber Beels:Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:And he's using you and he's reminding you. And nobody can question that. You know? It's like the blind man when he was healed, you know, it's like, they bring the parents and like, Tell us what happened. He's like, ask him.
Fernando Resendiz:And then I asked him, I was like, who did it? Well, I don't know. I just know that I was blind, and now I can see. You know? It's like the evidence is so real that you could you could feel it.
Fernando Resendiz:I mean
Amber Beels:Feel it. Taste it. See it. Yeah. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:And and that is the truth that it can change. Mhmm. You know, it's like, he is present, he is available, and he will be able to use. Like you said, I can I can feel the holy spirit? It's it speaks to you.
Fernando Resendiz:It it's present in your life, and I can do the same. You know? It's like, I can hear people speak. I was like, something's not checking. Right.
Fernando Resendiz:Right.
Amber Beels:That's that discernment.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Something's not right. And and and you could use it for any aspect of your life. That's the beauty of it. You know?
Fernando Resendiz:It's like, I remember when I was young and I was in love and then my heart was broken. And I would ask, you know, I mean, I would ask Cat because the holy spirit wasn't in my vocabulary. But I felt, like, so bad, you know, that emptiness that you feel in your stomach when you're in love and you're not love back and Right. And you feel horrible. And then I started praying.
Fernando Resendiz:I was like, god. Take this away from me. And all of a sudden, that peace fills you. Mhmm. So some people could say, like, that's stupid.
Fernando Resendiz:How can you like, does god really care for that? You know, are your emotions? You know, it's like that's teenage, you know, nonsense that you go through. Yeah. But that is the connection that you can get that you can find in him and be like, god, I can take anything to you, and it's important for you.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:And you'll take care of it.
Amber Beels:Well, I mean, if you think about it, where did emotions come from?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:They came from the Lord. Right? Yeah. So they have to be important. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:I mean, they don't always represent reality. Sometimes they represent your reality and what you're going through, but they're still important and the Lord cares about them. And so he wants to put them in perspective for you
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And give you that peace even in the little things. Like, I I also say on my podcast a lot, like, sometimes if you just need help writing an email, just, holy spirit, please. I gotta say this in a nice professional way. Please help me write this email right now.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And he's gonna help you because he's there doing life with you. He's omnipresent. He's with you twenty four seven and he doesn't sleep. So
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:You know, sometimes he wakes you up at one, two in the morning with a dream or whatever because he has a message to give you or he has a word to give you, and he's doing life with you. So there's nothing that's too small for him.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. And for me, I think that when I the first time I actually directly prayed to the Holy Spirit, it was probably, like, two years ago when my mom was in Mexico and and she was, like, pretty sick.
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:And, I mean, we're pretty hopeless because we we can't go back. We can't see her. We can't be there with her. So that night, you know, we we called, you know, the family, like, okay. Let's meet up, and let's just have prayer.
Fernando Resendiz:Let's let's pray for a miracle. Let's let's hope for God, you know, that, you know, for a miracle. So so we get together. We come to my house, and and we started praying. You know, everybody prays aloud and just kinda, like, create a big, you know, commotion.
Fernando Resendiz:It's like everybody pray on their own, getting loud. But I just decided to sit down on the couch, and I just, like, leaned back and closed my eyes and and I prayed to the holy spirit. I was like, holy spirit, surround me with your love. Mhmm. Because in a way, I felt like God was gonna take my mom.
Amber Beels:So Like you knew.
Fernando Resendiz:So even the thought of it, you know, it was, like, broke my heart so deep that I didn't wanna think about it, but just the thought of it. And even before, you know, I knew that she was sick, and it was it was pretty major. Yeah. So I I felt like she wasn't gonna go back from there. But I knew that when that moment came, it was gonna be pretty, pretty hard.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So I was kinda like, I need something bigger because it it it was gonna be unbearable. Yeah. So I leaned back and and and cried to the holy spirit. And I was like, holy spirit surround me with your love.
Fernando Resendiz:And believe me that just something came over me, like a peace, you know, it's like something that nobody else could have done
Amber Beels:it. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:And and that's the only way I went through it. And that's when I understand that God is really available. The Holy Spirit is really available for you even in the hardest times. And when I was reading John 16, I was like, man, somehow Jesus wanted to get him through the airs. Guys, you know, it's gonna be hard.
Fernando Resendiz:You know? I wish I could give you better news and put it in better words. You know? When I say bye to my kids when when they're little, it's like, guys, I'm gonna leave, but, hey. You know?
Fernando Resendiz:Try to calm him down. He was like, it's gonna be okay. You know? Your mommy's gonna be here with you. You're gonna be playing with your friends.
Fernando Resendiz:And I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna bring you something to play with. But Jesus really laid it down to him, guys. It's gonna be hard in the world. You're gonna have affliction. The world's gonna beat you up.
Fernando Resendiz:They're gonna kill you. Even when they kill you, they're gonna say that they're honoring God in my name. And I think that's the beauty of it. It's like the Holy Spirit's gonna be present there
Amber Beels:Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:During those days. You know, he was saying, like, when the woman is praying and then the pain comes, but when they see the baby, you know, it's like, all that is for God. The joy comes. Yeah. And that's the beauty of it because when you are in the other side and they hope that it's after that comes after, it doesn't compare, and it's only available through him.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. And that's the beauty of it, that you get to know him, you get to experience it, you get to have that intimacy, and that's the only way you can really enjoy it.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:That's the only way you can really experience that freedom, that joy, that peace when you get connected, really plugged in, allow them to feel you to working in life. And that's how you walk in freedom, in true freedom. You get you you can get caught up in everything else, and it's easy to look after everything else except that.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:Because we don't like to get exposed because he'll come and reveal like, hey, I'm looking at you. Yes.
Amber Beels:He likes to do that.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. And even though he doesn't do it in a condemnation way
Amber Beels:It still hurts.
Fernando Resendiz:It's still because you you're exposed. The closer you get to the light, the more you see how ugly you look. You
Amber Beels:know? Right.
Fernando Resendiz:But it's the beauty of it to to walk along him and and enjoy that freedom in life.
Amber Beels:Totally. Yeah. I love that. I love what you said about connecting and plugging in, and that's how you get access to freedom Yeah. Is through that connection and and partnering with the Holy Spirit and doing life with him because he's here to do life with us.
Amber Beels:Mhmm. Because you're right. Jesus didn't mince his words. He didn't sugarcoat it. Yeah.
Amber Beels:He was like, it's gonna be hard. You're gonna go through trials. People are gonna, you know, beat you up and
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:It's but take heart because I've overcome the world. Right? Overcome the world. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:That's that's the key. Yeah. That's the key.
Amber Beels:He's overcome the world. And he had the Holy Spirit to overcome the world.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:He had the Holy Spirit with him through the crucifixion, through everything.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And so knowing that the Holy Spirit spent that time with him and he couldn't do his ministry without him Mhmm. We can't either. Right? Yeah. And so we have to depend on the Holy Spirit to help us get through those tough times, to give us that peace.
Amber Beels:You can have joy within chaos. You can have joy even in the midst of sadness.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And knowing that he'll show up just as long as you have faith and you expect him to show up, he's gonna show up. Yeah. And he's gonna give you what you need in that moment. Maybe not what you want, but he's gonna get you what you need. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Totally. Yeah.
Amber Beels:To to get through that situation that you're whatever situation you're in Mhmm. No matter how small or big.
Fernando Resendiz:Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
Amber Beels:It's good. It's good word, Fernando. I love it. Awesome.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. It's been great.
Amber Beels:Yeah. Is there anything else that you wanted to touch on?
Fernando Resendiz:Oh, man. It's been I didn't expect to go this way, but it's been great.
Amber Beels:Yeah. It happens a lot on this bucket as we go in a certain direction and then go some other way. That's alright.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. No. I think I think it's just to remind people that no matter what you are in your life, because sometimes we feel like I'm too far away to get back or find that connection because I feel like God would not take the time for me because of what I've done, because what I've been, or because who I am right now or what I'm through I'm going through. You know? And that's why we look to people, and we're vulnerable with people, and we expect people to kinda, like, intercede for us.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. You ran to the pastor, you ran to your leaders, you ran
Amber Beels:You think they have a better connection than you do.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. So maybe you can hook me up, you know, it's like, maybe I go through you, you kinda put a good word for me, and and I can have that, you know, kinda work my way in back in.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:But I have good news. You know, it just takes a time to be vulnerable and and the privacy of your heart where you are, and you just say, God, you know, I'm here. Mhmm. And don't hold back anything. Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:You can tell him everything you've done or he already knows everything you've done.
Amber Beels:Right. He already knows.
Fernando Resendiz:Where you've been. But just tell him, here I am, and allow him to come in. Because, I mean, the beauty of the Holy Spirit says, when you don't know how to pray, when you don't know how you how to ask or even you don't even know what to ask for, he does it for you. Mhmm. And you can say, Holy Spirit, I'm here.
Fernando Resendiz:You do the work for
Amber Beels:me. Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:That's the best intercessor that you could have.
Amber Beels:Absolutely.
Fernando Resendiz:You don't have to go to your pastor or your, I mean, your leader or whatever. You just go to him Mhmm. And he he'll do the work for you. And he's gonna start filling you. He's gonna start giving you identity.
Fernando Resendiz:He's gonna start breaking those chains. And and as soon as you know, you're gonna find your way back to him.
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:And you're gonna find that relationship with with him and the freedom that you've been looking for your whole life. It's one step away.
Amber Beels:Yeah. It's not easy to get there. No. But it's worth the it's worth the effort. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Oh, yeah. Totally.
Amber Beels:Yeah. No. I love that. I love that. Because I I think even I do this all the time of, like, going and seeking someone that's, I think, further along in, you know, their journey with the Lord or they have a better connection with the Holy Spirit or whatever and going to them and asking them to pray and see what word they get.
Amber Beels:You know? Yeah. Yeah. I totally had a season where I did that a lot because I felt like I didn't have the same access.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And that's not true. That's that's a lie that we build up in our own heads thinking that we're not worthy or we're not there yet or we haven't reached that level of holiness or whatever, you
Fernando Resendiz:know. Yeah.
Amber Beels:Yeah. And that's not true. Like, we all have authority under Christ. He's he's given us that power to everybody
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:To be able to access him and hear from him. It may just take a little bit more effort because you're fine tuning, like, how to hear his voice or how he speaks to you.
Fernando Resendiz:But
Amber Beels:you're just as powerful as the next person. He's giving because it's not their power, it's his.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. Exactly.
Amber Beels:And so you just need to learn how to yield to that river and access him. And the way you do that is by, you know, falling on your knees and just saying, I'm here. Mhmm. Reveal yourself to me. Show me what I need to do and just being completely unbiased and just humble.
Amber Beels:And be like, Lord, I expect you to show up because your word says you will. And I have faith that you're gonna do it. Yeah. And it's not because of me, because of anything I've done, or because I'm worthy enough, but because you promised and you always fulfill your promises.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah.
Amber Beels:And you always say when you're gonna show up and I can depend on that. Yeah. And, yeah, that's that's a really good point.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. It has happened to me, you know, even when you kinda, like, walk your own way. Mhmm. You know, it's like you're not spending time. You know?
Fernando Resendiz:And I was like, oh, man. How I get back? How I get back? And then you start hearing all these boys in your head. And sometimes it just takes to I'm in the shower and, like, close my eyes and just say, god, here we
Amber Beels:are. Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:You know? And you just wait. You just wait. Now all a sudden, you start feeling in. It's like Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:I I I'm not too far away. You know? I'm I always been here. Yeah. It's just you that you, like, forgot about me.
Fernando Resendiz:You know? Right. But it's just like that to to humble yourself and say, God, you know, it's like, need you. Mhmm. I need you.
Fernando Resendiz:And he's always been there. It's just like you didn't notice. You're too dumb to, like, be do your own thing and
Amber Beels:Well, he did call us sheep. Right? And you were a shepherd, so you know the intelligence of sheep.
Fernando Resendiz:Yeah. They're not the smartest animal in the animal kingdom. But that's the beauty of it. You know, as a shepherd, you get to learn to love them and see how vulnerable they are. So you can expect that.
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm. You walk out there and and you're not expecting anything from them. Mhmm. Because you're like, oh, if I send them this way, I know they're gonna find their way back. No.
Fernando Resendiz:They're not. Or they're gonna find the right path to the right pasture, or they're be careful not to walk or climb that rock because they're gonna be careful. No. They're not. And that's who we are.
Fernando Resendiz:You know? It's like, god doesn't have a high expectation on us, you know, because he knows how stubborn, how, you know, careless we are, but he still loves us.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:He's still like, okay. I know where he's heading. So we're not the smartest
Amber Beels:Yeah.
Fernando Resendiz:People. We're like sheep and but he still gave up his life for us.
Amber Beels:Yeah. Still loves us. He still calls us by name. Yeah. Right?
Amber Beels:And sheep know the the voice of their shepherd. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Mhmm. So And that's the beauty of it. It's like, who can question that? Yeah. When when he already knows you by name and you know his voice Mhmm.
Fernando Resendiz:And you get to see, like, I don't know how he looks like. I don't know when he's gonna come back. A lot of people get caught up in this, like Sure. When God's gonna come back? Oh, what if he happens, you know, this time or this time?
Fernando Resendiz:All I know that he knows my name Mhmm. That I know his voice. And when he calls me, I know who he is.
Amber Beels:Right.
Fernando Resendiz:And when he calls me in, I'm gonna follow because I know his voice. Yeah. So what to worry about, man? Don't worry about, like, no. You're in the right doctrine.
Fernando Resendiz:Oh, you're you don't know the times. You don't know what to pray for. You don't know the name of it. It's like, I know who he is. Right.
Fernando Resendiz:And he's deep in me that he wakes me up at night. He talks to me. He walks with me. Mhmm. Who can question that?
Amber Beels:Right. That's all that matters is that you know you and you have a relationship with your God. Right?
Fernando Resendiz:Yep. Yeah. Beautiful.
Amber Beels:Awesome. Well, thanks so much, Fernando, for coming on here and talking about this. It's been a blessing to have you on.
Fernando Resendiz:Thank you for believing in me.
Amber Beels:Yeah. Of course. Of course. And guys, thanks so much for listening to this episode. I am so excited to have this one be released.
Amber Beels:It should be released on June 26 when you listen to this episode, so that should be good. And that is also my due date. Oh, wow. So I may or may not have a child at that point, but we'll see.
Fernando Resendiz:That'll be great.
Amber Beels:Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. So so just so you guys know, I have one more episode because I'm trying to get to 52 episodes before I take a break for or complete season one. That's what I'm gonna call it, season one fifty two episodes. So I'm gonna be taking a little bit of a break so I can figure out motherhood, and then I'll be back.
Amber Beels:Oh, wow. So it'll be good. It'll be really good. So I hope you guys really enjoyed this this episode. If it touched you and, you know, spoke to you, please share it.
Amber Beels:Please share it with a friend. Plea that's how we grow this podcast is sharing this episode or leaving a review. And, you know, if you have something bad to say about Fernando, just leave that out. It's okay. You can just send me an email personally.
Fernando Resendiz:Take it to Amber. She invited me, so I have nothing to do with it.
Amber Beels:Awesome. Well, I hope you guys enjoyed this message. I hope you have a great week, and I'll see you next week.
